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GiantEnemyCrab
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Suggestions for Quest Alterations/Expansions

1. Getting to have sex with Ashley in a repeatable way is awkward and is reliant on you not going further with a quest flag to get things JUST right and even if you side with Ashley during that quest, you won't be able to redo the, "show me your room" part. Make it so that if you humiliate Madison, Ashley will continue to have sex with you multiple times and the plot flag for Ashley showing you her room would be reactivated and make it so you can drop her top without losing affection. (In fact, by endgame in each storyline, you should be able to strip whoever you want she she'd like you enough that she'd gladly disrobe.)

2. When you do humiliate Madison, it feels WRONG to bully her into a BJ. I'd add one line of dialog to make her be the one to offer sex to you as a bargaining chip since I feel like that scene crosses a line. Plus we already have an oral scene from her, I'd make it so she literally begs to sleep with you in exchange for not leaking her photos and you have vaginal sex. Plus, if the main character does that to her, your own planned Madison and Ashley epilogue campaign feels out of place and like something which shouldn't happen. All it'll take is one line of dialog being changed as well as how you have sex with her to fix this.

3. Rachael needs a new sex quest once Vickie arrives, particularly if you're planning on making Vickie the catalyst for the endgame. It feels wrong that I can't get her to have sex with me when I'm playing the game in the, "correct" way as opposed to doing it, "wrong."

4. You need to add something with Brittney and Stephanie to the game during the main campaign since their storylines feel unfinished.

The main goal should be repeatable sex in multiple positions with every main character if you play the story the right way. (Or as food for thought, the ability to start a relationship with a character of your choice, provided that you have appropriate affection levels as a true ending before the credits roll.)
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For the record, if you want me to expand upon point 2, there's a right way and a wrong way to handle sexually explicit content in games. I'd argue that The Witcher series and Second Life handle it well and Duke Nukem Forever handled it poorly. The Madison humiliation scene really comes dangerously close to the Duke Nukem Forever Hive level and if it isn't changed, you're looking at a massive backlash from the gaming press and Anita Sarkeesian having yet another argument against gaming as a medium alongside consumer disinterest. That one scene needs to change since the game is otherwise really, really great and this is coming from somebody who usually despises dating sims. You're shooting for a lighthearted sex comedy like Caddyshack and old Russ Meyer films but that one scene is going to make this game ridiculously controversial in a bad way.
GiantEnemyCrab
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Re: Suggestions for Quest Alterations/Expansions

And for the record, this is how I'd end Madison's story.

I'd make her actually TURNED ON by blackmail and that she's incredibly aroused by public humiliation. Since you don't lose the cell phone jammer after Katherine's quest is finished, I'd make it an item you pretend is a bomb. Madison wants you to tie her up with rope from the garage and get a bullwhip out of her closet while she gathers everyone around her in the back yard, then you pretend to have a bomb and say that you'll blow up the house if everybody doesn't watch you strip, tie up and flog Madison until she says her safeword. (Which is "Frank.") If you stop right when she says her safeword, then she'll admit to pulling the whole thing as a prank and then ask you to have sex with her while she's still tied up. After that, you can have repeatable sex with her and she tells you that the people at the party are her coworkers (except Vickie) and you've just been offered a job. (Even Ashley is impressed with this and if your approval with her is high, she'll say that she's far better in bed.)

This quest puts you back on Madison's good side and ends her arc in a really satisfying way.
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Re: Suggestions for Quest Alterations/Expansions

We are going to take a multi-path approach to Madison's "Simon Says" opportunity as we're fixing it and adding to it prior to reintroducing it to the game. We want to allow players the chance to take a "dark" route, a "hero" route, and one route potentially in the middle somewhere. We don't want to dance around the topic, and we also don't want to lay down the same judgments on players for making an in-game choice as we would if someone were to do this to a real human being in real life.

I like your choice of a safe word. :P
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I’d actually make the blackmail quest return after you prank Madison but the difference would be that you’re uploading her pics to the porn exec who just got her sex tape and if you do this quest later in the game in this way, you won’t lose approval or arousal since she’ll likely already be attracted to you. There is no way that Madison isn’t an extreme submissive who enjoys being degraded and humiliated. You don’t lose either approval or arousal for pouring beer on her or making a sex tape of her. Hence my bondage/public sex idea.

I also want to see the player be able to get Madison to remove her shirt and bra after you pour beer on her if you got Vickie’s number from her by untieing Ashley’s top. At the very least add some stains to her shirt after that. Despite her uptight image, Madison is clearly a freak. And yes, she’d agree to sleep with Vickie to do porn if you do the sex tape quest and then blackmail her afterwards and then have piblic sex with her. She’ll say that she can do porn on the side since she’s a manager at a small startup and likely won’t get fired. Since Madison and Rachael are the only two people who know Vickie, have Madison state that she and Vickie are already FWBs and they’re going to hook up at any second (which they immediately proceed
To do with you invited to watch) and make Madison’s endgame at the very end be her saying that she has trouble finding a real relationship since she likes sleeping around and doesn’t want to stop. That and she’s into anything and everything sexual which grosses people out and intimidated them. She’ll confess to having feelings for you and wants to know if you feel the same way.

Ashley’s endgame should involve her cleaning up since A. She was covered in beer and B. To progress in her story, you need to make her pee herself in front of other people. First you need to complete Ashley’s story and the above content with Madison up to public hogtied sex. Ashley says she can one-up Madison. She already has beer in her hair and down her breasts and back and pee all over her legs so her final prank is to spread her stench (and legs) all over Madison’s bed. She gives you a water bottle and asks you to get her water five times. Then asks you to head to Madison’s bedroom. She'll tell you that it’s payback for what Madison made her do by squatting over you, masturbating and the. When her orgasm meter is half full, she’ll pee on your chest and the stream won’t stop until she cums. She’ll say that you just got a taste of your own medicine and you can reply that that was disgusting or that it was hot and either way, she’ll ask you to lap up the remnants right from the source. After you give her head to bring her to another orgasm, she’ll ask you for round three so you can ejaculate all over her/Madison’s bed. After you have penetrative sex, she’ll let you know that she’ll be in her bathroom so you can shower off together. You can tell her that you like smelling like each other’s juices and she’ll reply, “that WAS fun and thenigjt is still young. I’d like to do it all over again.” Or you can follow her into the bathroom and have sex with her in the shower. You can repeat the already existing scene in her bedroom but also the scenes in her bathroom and Madison’s bedroom. She’ll then offer you a relationship but demand that you break up with Madison first if you already agreed to a relationship with Madison. Ashley states that her sister already offered her a home and a job and the last thing she’ll agree to is sharing a boyfriend, especially with all of Madison’s pranks.

Amy’s arc involves her becoming more adventurous and losing her inhibitions. There’s also the popcorn item which has no use yet. I want to see yo make her endgame be to Netflix and chill if you complete the entire scavenger hunt. Not only will she occasionally head to the hot tub at random times to have sex with Brittney and be wandering everywhere naked but she’ll want to have sex while watching a movie with you in the den in front of everyone like it’s no big deal. You can select a porn film which she’ll mildly like, a romance which she’ll like better or a comedy which she’ll really enjoy since it’s the least like a typical date movie. She’ll want you to talk to her before having sex and then she’ll talk to her after sex like it was no big deal and you can from there head to Ashley’s room or head to the den for sex. (And get her to put clothes back on.) She’ll then agree to a relationship if she can continue having no string s attached sex and you say that you like threesomes since Amy wants to continue exploring her sexuality.

Brittney needs to become a rival after you get her naked and will only agree to sex with you if you tie her record. She admits to being a good girl around guys and a bad girl around women. If you manage to sleep with every other woman, she’ll agree to sex with you. She’ll then ask if she should return to school and you can either agree that she should pursue her dreams or tell her that she’s only good for sex which if you say it, she’ll still sleep with you but she’ll also lose all approval and arousal. She’ll then ask for a relationship but will confess to still wanting to pursue the ladies even if she’s dating you but you’re also the first guy she’s met who she wants for more than a hookup. You can agree or say that you want to be exclusive and that’s a dealbreaker.

I also want Vickie to give you a permanent doubling of your max stamina after you have sex with her in the hot tub. It will be some knockoff parody of Viagra.
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Regarding Rachael, your comment about dialog works better than fetch quests since the game has enough of the latter. I just want you make the resolution to Vickie’s invitation entirely dialog driven with NPCs taking to each another and then tie it in to Katherine’s endgame as well as Rachael’s.

Rachel and Vickie should have a short conversation with each other before they realize that Katherine is to blame although Vickie gets mad that Madison just invited her coworkers and forgot about her and that Madison is going to owe her a TON of makeup sex. Rachael also mentions in passing that she finds you attractive. This prompts another conversation between Madison and Vickie and then Madison and Katherine with Madison saying that she wanted something low key and now that Vickie is here, her party is going to get wild, particularly since almost everyone has already had sex with one another, including Patrick and Frank and she she herself is now hard pressed to want to keep her pants on since Vickie always manages to get them off. Madison then has sex with Vickie as an apology for not inviting her.

Katherine is now angry at you since she didn’t mention you by name and took all the heat for it. She now asks you to call he goddess and your name is now slave. She then demands that you follow her to the garage. Her next demand is that you expose yourself to her and then masturbate. She then says that you got your jizz all over her clothes and asks you to remove them from her. She no longer cares about being caught since she now holds all the power. Then she demands that you watch her masturbate, then perform oral sex on her, then do her laundry in that order. You can choose to mess up her laundry by mixing it with a full bottle of bleach or do as she asks. Bleach turns her pants and underwear white and makes you lose approval. When you give her her clothes back the correct way, she says that you can’t watch her get dressed and to turn around. Then she mentions that either Ashley or Madison has a strap on but she can’t find the lube. She asks you to get on all fours for her but you still can’t look at her. Then she peggs you until you orgasm. She then lets you look at her again fully clothed and says that you may now call her Katherine again and you are no longer her slave but she’s dumping her boyfriend since she finally found a man who knows how to treat a lady. She calls up her boyfriend, dumps him and then tells you that you’re now in a relationship with her. You can ask to see the strap on she used on your anus and she refuses to show you but let’s you know that it was one of those horse dildos and you may need to see a doctor. As her new boyfriend, you now have permission to strip her naked at any time so long as you do everything she asks of you. Then she texts you her Amazon wishlist which includes multiple diamond necklaces which cost thousands of dollars, a new car and a $3000 computer.

With Rachael, you have to ask Vickie what she thinks of you and Vickie tells you that’s a Rachel thinks you’re hot and wants you to make a move on her. The easiest way is truth or dare but to start with the truth options since as somebody who regularly has sex either Rachael, Vickie knows to that she prefers to take it slow and get to know somebody first. The three of you meet at the couches in the back yard. You start with getting Rachel to open up about her personal life and get Vickie to tell some wild stories about not just sex but also life events before moving to dares on things like jumping jacks, the Macarena and running around the yard before getting around to stripping, then masturbating in front of one another, then oral sex, then penetrative sex (or in the case of Vickie and Rachael, a 69) then finally a threesome. Rachael then asks if you about some of the things she told you during truth or dare and asks for life advice. You can either be supportive or condescending but if you choose to give her good advice and help her with her predicaments then she’ll confess to having feelings for you but she also likes casual sex and also has feelings for Vickie but doesn’t want to tell her. She’s also now scared of what you’ll think now since she doesn’t know how you’ll react to the news that she wants polyamory. That and she likes truth or dare games since she likes doing the craziest things ever, particularly sexual things and she herself moonlights as a porn star. She’s actually up for anything with anyone. You can agree to a relationship with Rachel at this point and also get her to confess her love for Vickie. You can dare her to put her clothes back on, dare her to have sex with you, dare her to have sex with Vickie or dare her to have a threesome. You can also completely crush her spirit in multiple ways to make her cry, particularly by making fun of serious traumatic events in her life. If you do that multiple times to the point where her approval drops to 0, she’ll tell you that she had a crush on you and even wanted to see if you’d invite her on a date but you have said the most hurtful things to her that anyone has ever said and if you say them during truth or dare, Vickie will also gasp in horror and then refuse to allow you to have sex with her or complete her quests. If you do this right and get Rachael to start dating both you and Vickie, then Vickie will also say that she herself has also been attracted to Rachael and if you follow Vickie’s endgame, you should be able to have a full three-way relationship. You should also be able to pursue the same outcome with Brittney and Amy and Derek and Madison.

Not sure what’s planned for Vickie’s endgame but she did say she’d turn the party into an orgy and there should be a way to get her to love you. She’ll hopefully mention that she wants somebody in her life who doesn’t mind her job, isn’t the jealous type and is okay with her not just sleeping with but loving other people and that she’s currently intimate with multiple people. She mentions that it’s hard to find people like that and the stigma over her job and lifestyle makes it hard to even make friends. That she’s usually always horny and can’t recall a time when she turned down sex with somebody but that she also enjoys things like working out at the gym, mountain biking and then quotes poetry (Lord Byron)and if you identify the quote, you’ll get huge approval points. She’ll then quote a movie (Fatal Attraction).and if you can name the director, you’ll get more approval. Then she’ll quote some classic literature (Marquis de Sade) and if you can guess the author, she’ll mention that nobody has ever managed to get those right. She’ll instantly strip naked if you didn’t finish Rachael’s story yet and isn’t in the hot tub since she’ll say that with all the sex you’ll be having, pants just waste time. She’ll also allow you to send her out to anyone to seduce them. She’ll also let you have sex with her on the couch in the living room sounded she says she likes mood music and likes being watched by as many people as possible. You can also make it so the only words she’ll say to you are, “shut up!” if you let her know that you see her as a sex object instead of a person or make disparaging or dismissive comments about women in general when she talks about how often she faces rejection and how hard it is for her to make friends and find people who’ll date her. She’ll also punch you out if you follow that up with, “make me a sandwich.” But if you do it right and tell her that you want to date her she’ll say that there are currently multiple people in her life and it sucks that you can only marry one but you’re absolutely on the right track so far. She’ll also mention being a single mom who can’t tell who the father is but her son needs a male role model in his life and the only people who she shares feelings with/ are able to watch him are other female porn stars. If you say thats’s not A deal breaker even if she pops out another kid who may not be yours, she’ll wrestle you to the ground then and there and start riding you after saying that you’re perfect and a miracle.

And then orgy endgame where everyone has sex with one another and you choose which love interest you want who will give you a really sweet message after having sex for the last time (two sweet messages if you have a threesome).

Not sure how I’d handle Stephanie or Derek and I have zero interest in dating Patrick.
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Re: Suggestions for Quest Alterations/Expansions

This is just how I’d handle the story of it were up to me. Even then, I still wonder if Ashley and Madison occasionally have sex despite being sisters or would be open to sharing you. That still feels out of character for Ashley but maybe she does have some lingering feelings for her sister. If it didn’t feel OOC and Ashley came across as kinky as Madison does, I’d be all for it. If there were some sort of option for Ashley to let you strip her and the. Let her walk around the house naked (maybe after the scene where you record Madison, maybe after my proposed shower scene) then I may possibly see her sharing a guy with Madison or having sex with her.
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And there you go. I literally just wrote out how I personally would end the story. I kept it short so there would be all of one phase left for each character just to tie things up. My main issue is that Rachael lacks content. (You did mention not knowing what to do with her. I just wrote out an incredibly detailed idea.)

I'd suggest that once you're done with the Ashley and Madison epilogue, you do something with Rachael. Namely, I'd give her a broken leg and state that she's at Madison's place because her house burned down. She broke her leg skydiving on a dare from Vickie. Her house burned down in a fireworks explosion which was also on a dare from Vickie. Madison and Ashley are off on a vacation and want you to watch Rachael... except she needs somebody to help her around and Vickie is going to be busy working so you're going to need to help Rachael who's currently on Ashley's bed and can't go up or down the stairs thanks to her leg. She can't use the bathroom, can't get in and out of the bathtub and needs help to bathe and can't eat dinner since she can't get up or down the stairs.

Rachael is wearing nothing but a cast (which means new clothing items and animations) and comments that she's bottomless because she needs to be able to use the washroom and can't take her pants of panties off around the cast. When you ask why she's topless, she tells you that was Vickie's last dare before she left. She tells you outright that if you're going to hang around her while she's naked, you sure better disrobe yourself since she's both self-conscious and horny.

The first thing you notice is that Rachael smells horrible. She asks for a bath. You have to carry her on your back (which means she disappears from the game world and you can't run) and have to bring her into the washroom where you set her down. She puts one leg up in a new animation. You bath her and ask her about how her life is going. She says that currently working in Madison's office but since Vickie dared her into doing porn, she's scared that she won't be able to find a new job. She wants to go back to school to become a clinical psychologist but then asks if she's cut out for it. The first thing she says is that she's worried that it's hypocritical for her to talk about fears and personal problems and then want to be a therapist. You need to reassure her that everyone has problems. Then she asks if she's crazy herself if she keeps taking dares from Vickie. You need to tell her either that that's not a an actual disorder, it's a bet or that everyone's a bit crazy to keep her from hating you. Or you can just say that she's nuts which makes her kick you out.

Then you have to bring her back to the bed and now that she's clean, she wants a hug since she just broke her leg. Then she says that she's still horny but she's also thirsty. You need to bring her water from downstairs in a bottle. Then you have sex with her. The problem is that made her leg hurt all over again and she now has to pee. (You didn't dismiss this and seemed open to the idea when I brought it up earlier to the point of describing how you'd do it in a technical way.) Rachael's excuse for not wanting to leave the bed to use the toilet is that, "Ashley already did it and you were there so Madison said I could." You can either tell her you're carrying her anyway, let her wet the bed in front of you, let her wet the bed in front of you while you masturbate or give you a golden shower like Ashley did. Her approval stays stable if you choose the former, middle too options give a slight increase in approval and the latter option gives her a MASSIVE increase.

After she finishes, she wants to talk more. She mentions feelings of abandonment. That you both like each other but you have so many other options and she wonders if it'll last. You can either tell her that you're there for her and that you do care or say that you're into somebody else or just don't have feelings for her, in which case, she kicks you out. If you do say that you care, then she'll ask if Vickie will also be there for her. You can either say that Vickie just wants to play around with her to get her to break up with Vickie, or you can convince her that polyamory is okay. This will only affect dialog since Vickie won't appear.

Rachael says that she's hungry. You need to make her something to eat from food downstairs. Make dinner and bring it to her. Or you can give her food. After dinner, Rachael says that she wants to watch a movie with you. You can choose either a romance film or porn. If it's a romance film, then she'll let you kiss her. If it's porn, then it's one starring Rachael and Vickie that Vickie dared her into since Vickie just wanted to get into her pants. You can critique her performance and she'll still get approval whether you make fun of her or praise her just don't tell her that what she did was dirty and wrong. At the end, you can joke about how you'd tell her to break a leg but she already did. When it's over, she'll want to have sex again. When your second round is over, she'll say that she wants to cuddle and then go to bed but she's happy you're there with her.

That's how I'd add more Rachael content outside of one more quest. Just another epilogue expansion.
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Anyway, here's my interpretation of each character and what they want. Keep in mind that a lot of this is just my gut feelings since much of this content isn't put in the game yet. For the record, I feel like not every character's kinks should appeal to every player.

Common To All: Considering how easy it is to score a hook-up, virtually everybody already knew what, "party at Madison's house" meant. Madison locked away the alcohol and invited Frank so that nobody would be too drunk for sex. After being corrected that these characters have feelings for one another viewable through console commands, it's pretty clear that all of them identify as either bisexual or pansexual and are attending the party since they're looking for an excuse to have sex and that they're also likely polyamorous. Combine that with the quest to expose yourself to everybody and how nobody is too repulsed to leave, let along lose any sort of approval and how Amy is the only character to penalize you for having sex in public and it's clear that the attendees were there to have sex and that they don't confuse love and sex.

Ashley: Ashley is somebody who didn't have friends of her own to invite, her sister is providing her a place to live and paying for her school and she has a bunk bed to herself which is somewhat childlike so it's clear that she has some form of special needs and is completely reliant on a sister who doesn't value her and is actually embarrassed by her. She doesn't appear schizophrenic since she doesn't talk in a monotone and lacks any sort of break with reality. She doesn't appear to suffer from bipolar, PTSD or anxiety since she only takes her anger out on his sister and her anger is too focused. It's likely that she has depression but that likely is a symptom itself rather than the root cause. It's possible that she's a VERY high-functioning autistic but her room isn't organized and she appears to lack any sort of intense interests when if she was autistic, she'd likely have a bookshelf in her room instead of a guitar and her guitar would have been located next to a stack of CDs. If she's anywhere on the autism spectrum, then she's extremely high-functioning and it's likely a cormorbid with another underlying condition. So I've narrowed it down to ADHD and the things that really confirm that for me is that her desk is messy and she's impulsive enough to literally fall in love with the first person to show her affection. That and impulsive enough to not know that her sister was throwing a sex party but still decided to roll with it. She's likely incredibly isolated and the fact that her symptoms aren't aren't totally visible is likely a huge part of the reason why Madison resents her so much. Madison is somebody who I don't think needs just sex, she needs a hug and her main story endgame better make it possible to max out her approval after pranking her twice, declare your love for her and when NPC on NPC sex is brought aboard, she absolutely better be sleeping around with the other girls since I ultimately feel sorry for her, I feel pretty bad about pranking her and I want this character to be able to be happy at the end since she's been through enough and really deserves to be happy. Part of the reason why I assumed that Ashley peed herself instead of threw up when the game wasn't clear about it is because she has a goofy sense of humor and it's clear that getting her sister to do porn wouldn't bother her that much, nor would it hurt her career since Madison's approval doesn't drop when you prank her and people who are into urine play usually have that sense of humor, hence why I suggested that she bring in some consensual watersports into her endgame. That and give her some one-liners in her final story content and your planned epilogue since that would be in character once she warms up to you. She's a bit stand-offish at first but I bet that she has an amazing sense of humor.

Madison: Based on Madison's complexion and Ashley's facial features, I'm going to guess that both of them are Hispanic. Considering that she isn't phased by you, Vickie and Ashley breaking her into porn, she likely has some sort of job where she's either in high-level management at a small firm or owns her own business and considering that the sequel is titled, "Office Party" that's even more likely and it's also highly probable that the friends who Madison invited are coworkers who she personally finds physically attractive/all had sex with before and has cultivated an office environment that's highly sexualized to cater to her tastes. The fact that you mentioned a female player character is in the pipleline means that virtually all of these characters likely came to hook up with other women and view a male protagonist as a special bonus surprise. She's a homeowner at a young age, presumably has a huge stock portfolio to herself and likely resents her sister for not being able to be as successful as her. Plus, Madison is clearly an extreme submissive based on the fact that she doesn't lose approval during the sex tape prank nor does she lose approval when you pour beer on her. The only reason why you can't use things like duct tape, rope and a ball gag is because those assets haven't been implemented yet since this girl is KINKY. The fact that you stated that you're redoing the blackmail quest in a way that won't cause approval loss means that she really, really likes being degraded since she's over loaded with responsibilities and wants somebody else to take charge for once. I'd actually be shocked if future content involving her doesn't have a BDSM focus.

Frank: Frank is somebody who avoids relationships and pushes people away due to his own insecurities and is enough of a jerk that I lack any sympathy for him (although he does have the funniest lines in the game). Not sure if he will be getting future content since he can get permanently knocked out.

Brittney: I feel like Brittney is ashamed of her sexuality. She's one of the younger characters and even though her main story quest isn't completed, she is clearly somebody who needs a bit of a warm-up to get her started and can't just jump in. I think that she views her attraction towards women as immoral and sees her attraction to men as little better but at the same time did choose to go to a sex party because she wants sex and her epilogue shows that she wants romance and intimacy as well. A. when NPC sex is implemented, I think that she's going to be all over the other girls more than anyone else sine she won't be able to help herself and the rest of her story content will revolve around her getting the guts to sleep with the player but also the end of her story is all but confirmed to also give her the courage to return to school to finish her degree. She needs confidence, praise and encouragement and I want to see her either succeed or be able to crush her spirits in a way similar to Madison and Ashley in a way that makes her want to hide under a rock and never crawl out again just as she's beginning learn to enjoy life (and then reload my save so I can make her happy again). Not sure why her dating profile says, "watersports" as one word since based on sexual psychology and my own experiences, I don't think that's particularly something she's into since she doesn't really have the personality for it but I could be wrong. For all I know, she could want to be handcuffed to the bed but I think that she'd just take off screaming if you asked. I just see Ashley, Rachael and Vickie as more into that particular kink. Brittney seems pretty vanilla and into spanking and light bondage at the most.

Amy: I feel like Amy is up for exploring a whole ton of things but for the most part wants vanilla sex at this point in time but she'd be up for group sex if given the chance/threesomes get implemented. I think that she's 18 and still figuring out who she is. Honestly, if you complete her scavenger hunt, then her quest shuts out before you can have sex with her. She clearly showed up to this party to test her limits and find out what she likes and it's obvious that she's attracted to a male player character as well as Brittney but I wouldn't be surprised if she would be up for anyone willing to give it to her but isn't likely to be into anything kinky yet. (Maybe she'd be up for exploring turn-ons in Office Party?) I still think that she's inexperienced and isn't a virgin but still hasn't had a relationship yet but would absolutely choose to have one since I think that she's trying to use sex to seduce the player character into emotional intimacy. My suggestion for how to lower her approval is to say that she's just a fling, you don't actually feel anything for her and you won't even take her on as an FWB. How to complete her story would be to say that you're up for taking her out to dinner some time as pillow talk. Since she and Ashley are both able to have sex in the same room so she and Ashley might both be into each other since Ashley is around 21 which is close to the same age. (Honestly, the endgame should be one where you get a primary love interest but also a harem of women who are all into each other... and Derek.) She's also an exhibitionist who clearly hates being clothed and likes having a body worth showing. Her final story quest should be having sex with others watching.

Vickie: Vickie is great at what she does but struggles with love and intimacy. I think that she wants sex but she's too jaded and cynical to want love. At the same time, I think she does want affection but needs time to warm up to somebody. The natural progression of her story should be getting her to believe that she's worth not just sex but love. She's smart, she's funny, she's educated and sophisticated, she's fun to be around but I don't feel like she herself knows her own worth and has a much lower opinion of herself. In fact, I feel like she likely has multiple people in her life but she doesn't feel worthy of any of them and that she's scared of settling down and showing vulnerability. I feel like the way into her heart should to to show that you actually care about more than her body and value her humanity. She's scared of letting the armor drop and showing the real her, particularly since she only knows two people at a wild sex party which should be her element. The easiest way to lose her approval should be making disparaging comments about her and considering that she has a decent backbone, she should punch you out for insulting her. She also feels like the party is too slow and wants to get everybody naked and having sex in front of one another since she's easily bored.

Rachael: Even more adventurous than Vickie and if anything, Vickie is the one egging Rachael on to do even more extreme things than Vickie herself would do. Rachael is the one who I think would be into anything and everything sexual and likely fantasizes about things which go beyond safe, sane and consensual. She just needs a little push to get her into doing anything but she's honestly likely the kinkiest person there. I honestly don't think that she and Vickie are, "just friends" and I'm almost positive that Vickie got Rachael to do porn. Vickie likely lives vicariously through Rachael who does the things that even she is scared to do and Rachael is really up for anything. She doesn't have much content and what's there is easily skippable but I'm getting YOLO vibes from her and think that she's trying to have as many experiences in life as possible. I don't get the sense that she likes to be burdened with responsibility and is fine with getting through life with a bit less so long as she gets some free time. She's likely the type to down raw ghost peppers while skysurfing into the Pacific Ocean and punch a shark on the nose on the way back to land and likely did so already. What interests me about Rachael is what kinds of stories she has to tell. She's likely done some utterly insane things in far-off lands that few would even believe until Vickie verifies that yes, she actually did. If you want to hurt her, you should express disgust or boredom at her lifestyle instead of being impressed. I feel like she likes attention and wants to feel some type of affirmation for all her outrageous behavior. That and she has a crush on you and wants to know that you're open to dating her.

Derek: Derek is the type who'll open up to you if you show interest in him. He's not the type to make the first move and is likely oblivious to the fact that the player is attracted to him. Once you put anal in the game, it should be possible to get Derek to be a love interest but it's hard to say more about him since the dialog isn't there yet. But the easiest way to break him should be to tell him that you don't value him.

Katherine: Exact opposite as Madison. Katherine is completely dominant. I feel like she's into bondage but takes it a bit too far since she can't tolerate people not doing exactly what she says and wishes for the entire world to be her way. She is likely to dump her boyfriend since he wasn't willing to partake in an orgy and berates people for not doing exactly what she wants them to do when she wants them to do it. I actually feel like the best way to break her is to give her GOOD ADVICE and let her know that the world is what it is, not what she wants it to be. It's telling her the truth but she won't want to hear it even if it's good for her. Getting her to like you for her endgame should just be doing whatever she says during her bondage games which will make her break up with her boyfriend.

Stephanie: There's not really much content but she doesn't seem particularly bright and comes across as being really shallow. It's hard to say what you'll do with her but I hope that she shows some hidden depths with upcoming content that make her more interesting.

Patrick: No. Please don't do this. Patrick is annoying and my least favorite character in the game.
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Re: Suggestions for Quest Alterations/Expansions

well i see nothing that points out that ashley is special needs or that Madison is playing for her college it seems to me just the basic sibling rivalry between sisters tho Madison seems to be a bit more harsh then most but since i don't have any sisters its hard to really say. Yes she is staying with her sister while in college but when talking to her in her room it still doesn't state that Madison is paying for her school she points out she didn't bring her good stuff with her cause she feared that madison would burn it in the back yard as a prank so maybe the bunk bed was maybe really cheap alternative as far as being childish who cares? But i do agree the blackmailing of madison does need some work to make it a little less cringe worthy.
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